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Chubais: "We need the technological cluster including generation, the industry, science and education"


The chairman of the board of UK "RUSNANO" Anatoly Chubais told about the future of alternative power engineering in an interview to the editor-in-chief of Business FM Anatoly Chubais. Photo: Pyotr the Head of RUSNANO Anatoly Chubais gave to Kovalyov/TASS Business FM interview. Ilya Kopelevich talked to it. Anatoly Borisovich, one of your statements that after 2024 renewable power, generally solar and wind, will demand special support, specific. These are contracts of granting power, additional load of tariffs for the industry. Earlier about future ambassador of 2024 of the speech did not go. Means, you again at least put yourself under criticism fire. Anatoly Chubais: Power — the thing differing in long trends it is necessary to think about it long. Making decisions, it is necessary to see not three-five years, but at least 15-20. This mandatory requirement for all. It is clear, that there is no free cheese, someone has to pay. Resolving for itself ten years ago an issue of how it is fair to distribute load of support to renewable power, in 2007 we made the decision that it is fair to assign it to the wholesale market of the electric power or to industrial consumers. I will notice in brackets that then we consciously made the decision that it will not be extended to the population. It is an essence of the scheme existing now in the country. Now we discuss an issue: it is a lot of or a little, it is necessary to do or it is not necessary? We well understand a position of the industrial consumers fighting against this decision, they do not need it. Discussing their position, let's start anew. Whether there is a speech about increase in tariffs? Strictly speaking, no. Should we lower tariffs because volumes from the PDM-1 are released, or is not necessary? Guys, give at first we will agree with it. In this sense it was possible to rise in an impudent position, having told "Nobody suggests to raise" and to finish a discussion. But I am ready to answer all questions in this regard. I insist that in all discussion about the PDM-2 there is no speech about increase in tariffs. It is about that, to reduce them or not to reduce. If we keep the scheme existing today in the form of the PDM-2 what volume of loading will get on industrial consumers in addition because it will be prolonged after 2024? These are calculating things, defining figure, it must be kept in mind two factors. Factor No. 1 is the PDM, that is emergence in the market of power of new price loading. Let's decipher for those who understand it not at once. The new power is more expensive, it receives the guaranteed contracts of consumption of power, the continuous financial flow considered beforehand on tariffs above than our traditional power at once. But it is redistributed in the blanket network tariff which is paid by the large industrial enterprises. Anatoly Chubais: Almost everything precisely. You correctly told that new power will be paid by all consumers additional payment. In this sense in the market of power there is a payment, but in the market of the electric power happens opposite because price applications of wind power will be tsenoprinimayushchy. It

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